Thursday, 6 July 2017

My Question to Objectivists

Is Objectivism the philosophy of “reality and reason” or is it the philosophy of Ayn Rand? You can’t have it both ways—you need to decide if your ideas will be judged on the basis of “reality and reason” or on the basis of what Rand has said.

Here's the Link to the Discussion on Facebook

2 comments:

Liam Thornback said...

Your really asking two very different questions. I'll try to answer each separately.

First, Is Objectivism the philosophy of “reality and reason” or is it the philosophy of Ayn Rand?

Both. There is no dichotomy here. If one is an Objectivist, he or she assumes in this case that Objectivism is true and hence a "philosophy of reality and reason". To arrive at a different answer you either have to regard Objectivism as not a philosophy of reality and reason (hence false) or argue that Objectivism is somehow or another not the philosophy of Ayn Rand. If you believe the former, why direct this question to Objectivists? If you believe the latter, who or what are we to attribute the philosophy of Objectivism to?

You second question is, as I stated earlier, completely different from the first. You ask essentially "To Objectivists decide truth on the basis of reason and reality or only on the basis of what Ayn Rand said?".

The obvious answer is the former. The latter would be a contradiction with the core tenants of Objectivism (and common sense). No serious Objectivist claims that "Ayn Rand said" is an argument.

By formatting your two questions as one deceiving "question", you've made it impossible for an Objectivist to give you an honest answer. The answer to the first question would make no sense as an answer to the latter and vise versa.

Liam Thornback said...

You're asking two questions here and deceivingly presenting them as one "question".

The first question: Is Objectivism the philosophy of “reality and reason” or is it the philosophy of Ayn Rand?

Answer: Both. No dichotomy here.

Second question: Do Objectivists decide if your ideas will be judged on the basis of “reality and reason” or on the basis of what Rand has said?

Answer: The former. Ayn Rand specifically advocated against the latter (not that one needs her to tell you why that makes no sense).

No honest person can give one answer to your question. The answer to the first make no sense as an answer to the latter and vise versa. I hope you can see you mistake.